NOTALENT

I have been riding for years Mainly dezert and tracks Starwest, Elsinore, Glen Helen...Lately on a Honda CRF450 or a Yamaha YZ426F. My buddies are sponsored So they always have an extra bike for me. I use to Own a 2002 KX125 and a 2003 CR250. All 4 bikes are great. I am going to get back into racing the Grand Prix races...La cerne, Glen Helen, 29 palms..etc.. ..I also use to do alot of big jumps...but I havent did this on a 4 stroke...I imagine there a little heavier...Kinda want the all around bike...Looking for opinions.

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Big 6? I do all there fliers throughout the year.

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Racer277

The GP's are designed around 4strokes now. If you want to be competitive, you should be on a 4.

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NOTALENT

Thats what I mostly saw @ Adelanto this past year...I got so jealous I wasnt racing it!!!

Its definatley gonna be for all around...Glamis, Jawbone, Tracks GP's...

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djunkie

4 stroke. But thats just my opinion.

Ivan Dan

I'm selling my 03 YZ 250 (2 stroke) to get a 4 stroke. Can't believe I just said that!!! I never thought I would EVER ride a 4 stroke but technology has come so far with them that they are killer nowadays.

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NOTALENT

Yup....anyone know the weight difference off hand??? What kind of riding do you do dan???

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if your interested in a used bike i have a 2002 YZ250F (4 stroke) that is going in the cycle trader next week.



PM me if you are interested. I just sold my sons bike to another board member

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Speedin' Ian

I would imagine the weight difference on new bikes is about 10-15lbs, but I'm not sure. I have the CRF 450, before that I had YZF 426, and before that I had a CR 250. The CR was set-up for the desert and was a great bike, I'm not sure what the YZF was set-up for, but it was a terrible bike... really heavy, blew up the trans, terrible feel (probably could have dialed that in by changing suspension, bars, etc.) CRF is by far the best bike I have ever riden. I raced it in the desert and did one GP at Glenn Helen and it worked great in both, also did a little track riding and it feels great there as well, though it wears me out a lot quicker on the tracks than the 250F's. If you're interested I have a friend selling an 05 CRF 450R, it has very little use.

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sigepmock

I was a 2smoke fan for years...swore I'd never ride a fourstroke but then I rode the newer fourstrokes....wow I was sold...takes a little while to get used to the power difference but now I'm hooked. If you get a chance try the 06 Yamaha YF 450F with the alum frame....best damn bike I have ever been on....light and nimble...tons of usable power, no huge hit like the older ones....simply the fastest easiest bike to go fast on I've ever ridden...bar none.


Chris

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We rode Lake Arrowhead Sun. About the only thing you can ride in the mountains now days.

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NOTALENT

Is 2006 the first year that yamaha started the Aluminum Frame?? The Honda 450's are bitchin in desert....definatley a nice feel, although I am a yamaha fan.

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I have never ridden there....lots of trails and hill climbs I would assume???

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The new YZ450 is just plain mean. I rode last years model and was like wow..then this years model is even better...New trans and all.

tcook33

Don't waste your time with a 2-stroke....For 1, the resale is no bueno. And 2, you will not be competetive at local races (unless you are a pro in the intermediate class or intermidiate in the novice class....etc).

My last bike was the 04 CRF450 and now I have the 06 CRF450. Before that I rode 2 stroke RM's (250) and CR's (250). The 2-strokes dont compare to the 4-strokes.

I race some of the Big 6 and Worcs races and I also race local tracks. The weight is irrelevant. After getting used to the 4-stroke, you can whip it around just like a 2-stroke, plus your lap times will drop significantly.

I remember the first Supercross when everyone went to the 4-stroke. They looked like their necks were all broken, all stiff and sh*t....now they are whippin it upside down like the good old days of 2-strokes.

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76ANTHONY

do some checkin before you by buddy. i think honda will have a 450 4 stroke with fuel inj for 2007. just a guess

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This price is hundreds lower than any other yz450 in the cycle trader or anywhere else, I'll let it go to a hotboat member for $2900

2003 YZ450f 4 stroke, very clean, super reliable, never even a hic-up, just fully serviced this week at pro shop (valves/carb/plug/oil/filters/lube) have all receipts, pink in hand, Just paid reg. through 2008. Has new graphics, bars, chain and sprockets but motor is 100% stock.

call me at 619-507-3828
Josh

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Speedin' Ian

07 CRF 450 is exactly the same as the 06... looks like we will be waiting another year for the fuel injection

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Goodtime$

Notalent. I stopped riding a few years back, when the 450s were first coming to the tracks. Now they are so much better, step up to a CRF450 and dont look back.

My friend owns Performance Motorsports, honda dlr in San Juan Cap if that helps...

THOR

There is a reason why the the 2 stroke 250's are combined with the 4 stroke 450's. Cuz they are faster with the same displacement motors. But, for all around riding, go with the 4 bangers. Much easier and more turnkey. I personally ride a CR500 in the desert, but I like the big boys.

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sigepmock

Yeah 06 is first year for the Yamaha Alum frame on the 450F. I rode my buddies last fall in Glamis......it flat out hauled a$$ and was so smooth I couldn't believe it and it was completely stock. Since then my buddy added a pipe and had the suspension done just for the hell of it(He works for corp Yamaha) I rode it again and I can't believe how bad a$$ that bike is. I rode an 06 CRF and the Yamaha back to back and the Yamaha was just amazing....now I'll admit the Honda's have been the best all around bike for the last few years....but now the 06 Yamaha has them beat hands down in my opinion.....you need to go ride one before you buy anything.

I've raced the Adelanto in the past, ride Glamis in the Winter, and Socal Mountains in the summer with the occational Socal track and high desert trip and I can't wait to get my hands on a new YZ450F, I'm waiting for the 07's to come out and then see which I like better. If I bought a bike today it would definately be the Yamaha.

Chris

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Notalent. 4 stroke is the way to go. you sound like me, and the riding I do. I raced GPs for yrs on a KTM 2 stroke. Rode the Mammoth race track on the first year CRF450 and never looked back. The tech. is so impressive on the new four strokes its not even funny. I have rode every major four stroke brand 450. I own the CRF450 and love it. I've had 02', 03' and 05. The yamaha 06 is a very good bike. KX and RM have four speed trans and I just cant get used to that. I also currently ride alot of dezert, put IMS big tank, and "Scotts" steering dampener. and its really good. PM me for info on price. Oh and 07s will have fuel injection.

No Regrets

2 smokes are done- Anyone can go faster on todays 4 strkr than a 2. Roll on controlled power-liter than ever-less fatigue= ride longer faster. Especially for GP's, Worcs & such-I raced WoRCS Havasu & Taft and you wouldve got worn out on a pinger. Maybe arenacross fits a 2 stroker-Maybe.


If you can wait about 30 days the 07 Crf 450 will be out w/ no major changes & al La Honda 06's will drop another couple of hundred bucks for basically the same bike, brand new and you save about a grand. If you cant wait- $6299 otd cant be beat. Guys are asking 6k in the trader. Otherwise the 07 worth waiting for is the is the Kawi- 5 speed this year-might just get bike of the year-I 've ridden both 06's and they're very close. That ugly greenie might just sway me away from my Honda in 07.
I hear th YZF is good but not for a bigger guy, so no go for me-too cramped ergos. Love that retro yellow. Unless your high level ex/pro, you cant go wrong w/ any of the new bikes. Us mere mortals cant really tell them apart.

Good Luck.

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Ill blow out my 04 crf450 for $3750 if you cant afford new.


Good Luck.

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NOTALENT

Thanks...guys..thats what I was looking for...lots of opinions here. I will be buying one at the end of next month. Most likely gonna go with a 06 Yamaha..but I will have to test them all once again. Cant wait to get back out there...

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