Just say no speaka english and they'll think you're illegal so you'll be off scott free.
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Really that is the dumbest thing you can do. They will get thier sample( you already signed a doc saying that its ok for them to take a sample... when you got your DL) basicly what happends is its instant cuffs and they draw your blood( by force if they need to). Even if your below the legal limit your still fooked. You will lose your DL, I beleave its a year.
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Really that is the dumbest thing you can do. They will get thier sample( you already signed a doc saying that its ok for them to take a sample... when you got your DL) basicly what happends is its instant cuffs and they draw your blood( by force if they need to). Even if your below the legal limit your still fooked. You will lose your DL, I beleave its a year.
Isn't that why most of them don't have a license anyway?
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You can refuse to take it when you get pulled over. They may get mad at you or try and make you take it, but you do not have to. If they think you are drunk they will take you in and then you will have to take it. You may sober up a small amount by the time you get there and through processing...
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Really that is the dumbest thing you can do. They will get thier sample( you already signed a doc saying that its ok for them to take a sample... when you got your DL) basicly what happends is its instant cuffs and they draw your blood( by force if they need to). Even if your below the legal limit your still fooked. You will lose your DL, I beleave its a year.
They cannot force you to submit a sample. Refusal to consent to a BAC test results in a mandatory 1 year suspension -it is recorded and fined as a refusal to submit (probably add in a suspicion of under the influence of "X" substance.) The outcome is less drastic than a DUI, but you're still taking it in the arse in the end.
13384. (a) The department shall not issue or renew a driver's license to any person unless the person consents in writing to submit to a chemical test or tests of that person's blood, breath, or urine pursuant to Section 23612, or a preliminary alcohol screening test pursuant to Section 23136, when requested to do so by a peace officer.
(b) All application forms for driver's licenses or driver's license renewal notices shall include a requirement that the applicant sign the following declaration as a condition of licensure:
"I agree to submit to a chemical test of my blood, breath, or urine for the purpose of determining the alcohol or drug content of my blood when testing is requested by a peace officer acting in accordance with Section 13388 or 23612 of the Vehicle Code."
(c) The department is not, incident to this section, required to maintain, copy, or store any information other than that to be incorporated into the standard application form.
By have a DL you have already waved your rights to not giving a test.
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You have the right to refuse the field sobriety test. If I ever got busted, that is what I would do. Do submit to the breath/blood.
If you refuse the field sobriety test, they have no argument that you were legally "drunk" at the time they pulled you over. If you do submit to a FST, you may still get a DUI even if you are less than the limit. They can say that your BAC went down since the time you were pulled over. They can get you based on the field sobriety test evidence. If there is no field sobriety test done, they cant say that you were drunk (unless you were falling over drunk). Just because you "smelled" of alcohol doesn't mean that you were drunk.
Chances are if you do refuse a field sobriety test, you are going to get a pair of bracelets and go to jail, but they will test you at the facility. If you are below .08 at that time, they would have a hard time to proove that you were DUI material at the time you were pulled over.
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13384. (a) The department shall not issue or renew a driver's license to any person unless the person consents in writing to submit to a chemical test or tests of that person's blood, breath, or urine pursuant to Section 23612, or a preliminary alcohol screening test pursuant to Section 23136, when requested to do so by a peace officer.
(b) All application forms for driver's licenses or driver's license renewal notices shall include a requirement that the applicant sign the following declaration as a condition of licensure:
"I agree to submit to a chemical test of my blood, breath, or urine for the purpose of determining the alcohol or drug content of my blood when testing is requested by a peace officer acting in accordance with Section 13388 or 23612 of the Vehicle Code."
(c) The department is not, incident to this section, required to maintain, copy, or store any information other than that to be incorporated into the standard application form.
By have a DL you have already waved your rights to not giving a test.
I guess if someone is gonna drive while intoxicated, it might be cheaper in the long run to NOT renew their license.
I have heard this as well. If you are a dumbass, and get caught driving after partying, never, ever, ever do a field sobriety test. If you do submit to a
FST, it is up to the officers discretion, at least until you get to the station.
You know if you are ****ed up or not. If you are pulled over and they are asking questions, you are already in trouble.
Puke anywhere, anytime you can, to get anything not already in your bloodstream OUT. ASAP.
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You have the right to refuse the field sobriety test. If I ever got busted, that is what I would do. Do submit to the breath/blood.
If you refuse the field sobriety test, they have no argument that you were legally "drunk" at the time they pulled you over. If you do submit to a FST, you may still get a DUI even if you are less than the limit. They can say that your BAC went down since the time you were pulled over. They can get you based on the field sobriety test evidence. If there is no field sobriety test done, they cant say that you were drunk (unless you were falling over drunk). Just because you "smelled" of alcohol doesn't mean that you were drunk.
Chances are if you do refuse a field sobriety test, you are going to get a pair of bracelets and go to jail, but they will test you at the facility. If you are below .08 at that time, they would have a hard time to proove that you were DUI material at the time you were pulled over.
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I have heard this as well. If you are a dumbass, and get caught driving after partying, never, ever, ever do a field sobriety test. If you do submit to a
FST, it is up to the officers discretion, at least until you get to the station.
You know if you are ****ed up or not. If you are pulled over and they are asking questions, you are already in trouble.
Puke anywhere, anytime you can, to get anything not already in your bloodstream OUT. ASAP.
Brian
...yeah, puke, all over the officers uniform if you have to, and in the back seat of the patrol car, and at the police station...
I was given a FST once and passed and the guy stil made me blow.....Oh never mind.
FST is to prove impairment...... Blowing is to prove drunk..... You can be under the LEGAL limit but still get a driving under the influence........ You could pass all the FST's but blow over .08 and get a drunk driving... There are 2 different charges....
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I have a "friend" who was stopped on the parker strip. He had alot of LE on his boat. So he had some good coaching on what to do and not to do during the contact. Make a long story shoter, took all fst, and according to his coach's passed every one. When the bull dike man hating sweet heart of an officer said ok i just want you to take a quick breathalizer, the coach's said dont take it, refuse. The "friend" refused, more officers came, more fst's were given. We believe your under the influence, on with the hand cuffs, lifevest and into the boat for a afternoon boat ride to la paz holding station. Once there "friend" again refused test. About an hour later they handed good ole friend a faxed copy of a search warrent and said, now you cant refuse, will be taking your blood. Once in court friend was charged with oui, and a charge relating to refusing the breathalizer. As a friend my advice would be, if your drunk and get busted, man up and face the music. Your guilty and your not going to get out of it. If you get busted in az, on the water, here is a friends advice. Cooperate, spend the night in jail (dont bail out) see the judge in the morning, plea guilty, pay your fines, time served DONE! If you bail out, you dont see the judge in the morning, so its trips back in forth to az, for court, and ultimaitly your going to pay the same money and maybe have to go back in the klink for a couple more days. JUST MAN UP AND FACE THE CRIME YOU GOT BUSTED.
They cannot force you to submit a sample. Refusal to consent to a BAC test results in a mandatory 1 year suspension -it is recorded and fined as a refusal to submit (probably add in a suspicion of under the influence of "X" substance.) The outcome is less drastic than a DUI, but you're still taking it in the arse in the end.
Hope you didn't pay a lawyer for that advise Yes LEO's can force blood and yes they will. It's called evidence. I've seen many held down while nurse Susy Q pricks them with a needle. Nice way to pick up another misdemeanor for obstructing/delaying and usually add a third, cuz it's inevitable youre going to kick/hit one of the LEO's when you resist
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FST is to prove impairment...... Blowing is to prove drunk..... You can be under the LEGAL limit but still get a driving under the influence........ You could pass all the FST's but blow over .08 and get a drunk driving... There are 2 different charges....
I was joking. I passed the breathalizer too so he only gave me a speeding ticket. It wasted about 30 minutes and I was pissed because when he told me I was free to go I asked him if I passed all his little tricks and he said yes so I asked him why he gave me the breathalizer. He said they make everyone do it so I told him we could have saved alot of time if he hadn't made me do all the monkey tricks. I think I pissed him off at that point.
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Adversity is no reason to go all Boozer on us and start copping excuses and blaming others for why you haven't paid your bills in months..
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It would help if you started calling me "tripod" or the "human shoe horn" or "mule"
As a LEO I dont mind if people refuse to perform the FSTs (less writing for me). I do mind if they refuse any BAC tests at the station. My dept allows forced blood draws. You are handcuffed behind your back and sat in a chair with several officers standing over you in case you don't go with the program. When people see we are serious they dont resist. Some depts as a matter of policy don't perform forced BAC tests.